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november 16. sign for republicans that mr. obama has not really been pushing that hard for a deal. >> we need presidential leadership on in the just taxing rich people. >> three words the president did not use. he did not use the word sequester and he didn't say "debt ceiling" either. he focused most of his remarx on preventing taxes from going up. there are also massive spending cuts coming. no idea how they will avert that. he also did not mention the debt ceiling. earlier they wanted lifting the debt ceiling included. now it's clear it's not in the short-term package that guarantees if they get a short-term deal here, we have major budget battles coming. >> the key to any good negotiation each side has to give up something. near and dear to their heart. what is it, as succinctly as you imagine, both sides have given up? >> both sides say the president started on threshold of tax cut of $250,000. negotiations with boehner he moved to $400,000. not if you have for boehner. he wanted it to be $1 million or more. that is something that can beer worked on. spending cuts the republicans wan
following president obama's announcement that he would cut his vacation short to deal with fiscal cliff negotiations. hoping that the real estate market would bolster the economy in 2013. we are learning that holiday sales this year were the weakest since 2008. they had a grim outlook for a fiscal cliff deal and the impact of the tragedy in newtown. on the radar this morning, chilling details in the christmas eve firefighter ambush. we could find out soon who will be saying aloha to the senate and a broken record in the house of representatives. new details out of webster, new york. william spangler set a car and house on fire and ambushed firefighters, opening fire on them as they arrive on the scene. police found a note he left behind saying he wanted to burn down the neighborhood and do what i like doing best, killing people. a convicted felon who spent 17 years in prison for killing his grandmother with a hammer was armed with three firearms including a bushmaster, the same gun used in the school massacre. he may have killed his sister and the home had human remains believed to be h
and said he was modestly optimistic about a deal on taxes. meeting this the red room, president obama held firm for tax cuts for families making up to $250,000 per year, and joining me on the north lawn of the white house is kristen welker. kristen, let's listen to what the president said about and up or down vote or what he expects from the senate. >> i had a good and constructive discussion here with the leadership about this tax hike on the middle-class. i am optimistic that we can reach an agreement that will be passed in both houses. if an agreement is not reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor and up or down vote for the floor, and i believe a p proposal could pass both houses with majorities as long as the leaders allow it to actually come to a vote. if members of the house or the senate want to vote no, they can. but we should let everybody vote. >> kristen, this up or down vote seems to be be the big news of the day, and isn't this what the white house wanted all along? >> well, it is. it is prp's way of sayi
obama. mr. boehner said he wanted to deal along the lines what the two men had negotiated, summer of 2011, in the fight over raising the debt ceiling. "you missed your opportunity on that," the president told him. cold. but what we know right now, what we know from that is that john boehner wishes he could go back in time, get in the time machine, go back to 2011, and get the deal that president obama offered him then. mr. boehner wants another bite at that 2011 deal, because back then, the president was offering to stop at $800 billion in new taxes. my prediction here right now is that in a few weeks or a few months, republicans are going to wish they could go back to 2012, right now, and get the deal president obama offered them a week ago, which only raised about $1.2 trillion in taxes. because here's what i think is going to happen now. if we get a small deal before we go over the fiscal cliff, either because harry reid and mitch mcconnell come to a deal in the senate, or because democrats jam the republicans in congress, it's mostly going to be about extending the bush tax cu
boehner an obama get close to a deal, president obama moves the goalpost back. >> kimberly: he is playing hard ball. this is the problem. he is going hmm to you, republicans. i don't care about that. that is nothing. i get that for free. he is the guy changing the play for his side. what about the right? >> juan: the american people. look at the poll, they think president obama is willing to compromise. >> andrea: which is ironic. [ overtalk ] >> juan: who are the obstructionists? it's my ideology, i can't negotiate. even if we go off the cliff, endanger the whole economy. >> greg: here is thing. the idea of adhering to a principle in this world is seen as extremism, trying to limit government and cutting taxes. what obama is able to do is shift the argument from cutting and spending to now spending and borrowing. cutting is part of it. >> eric: leave it there. coming up, the day after christmas. you know what that means? all the bad gifts are going back. tell you what the five of us got from san. the plus, this woman says she was fired from her job for from being too sexy. her boss could
. >> arthel: if negotiations fail or lawmakers don't like a final deal, president obama wants to move forward with a plan c. what's in that? >> it would focus on three key areas. keeping the tax cuts for those making $250,000 a year or less, extending unemployment benefits and delayed dramatic spending cuts until later next year. president obama says the u.s. cannot afford a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. >> fortunately congress can prevent it from happening if they act right now. i just had a good and constructive discussion with senate and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. >> the wild card is figuring out what it will take to get a final deal to pass in the house of representatives. they return tomorrow, probably around when we find out if the top two senators reached an agreement. >> gregg: mike emmanuel live in washington. thanks very much. be sure to watch fox news sunday tomorrow. chris wallace talks fiscal cliff with u.s. senators lindsey
boehner. white house and congressional leaders have until january 1 to lork out a budget deal. resident obama is in hawaii on udget dn. nancy cordes is there as well. nancy, good evening. nancy, goor: jeff, this would : sentially be a last-ditch effort to avert the fiscal ially be sources tell us that aides to the president have been in talks preliminary talks, with aides to senate majority leader harry elf who himself was here in hawaii this weekend for the funeral of senator daniel inouye. eid is now working, we're told, on a smaller package than the comprehensive deal than the president was working on with speaker boehner. than tmall package would prevent tax rates from rising for middle-class, perhaps cut some spending and tie up a few other loose ends. so far, though, senator reid has so fbeen in touch with republicans over this plan. blicans ovent and the first lady as you mentioned, are here in hawaii. th atte also attended senator inouye's funeral this weekend. this is the president's first real vacation, jeff, in about a year. real nut he's cutting it short, heading home later
, there is hope for a soft landing. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell and president obama said today a deal was close. but late in the day house leaders announced they will not vote on a deal tonight. they're waiting for the senate. so what happens now? we have two reports beginning with nancy cordes on capitol hill. nancy, good evening. >> good evening to you, rebecca. it looks like the deadline pressure finally prompted a meeting of the minds today. negotiators agreed to a plan that extends the bush era tax cuts for 99% of americans. but they are hung up on one key spending issue, and so it looks like we will go over the fiscal cliff at least temporarily. >> we're very, very close to an agreement. >> reporter: senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said his round-the-clock negotiations with vice president biden had paid off. >> i can report that we've reached an agreement on all of the tax -- the tax -- issues. >> reporter: first and foremost, the bush era tax cuts. the two sides agreed to extend them permanently for all household income under $400,000 a year for individuals, $450,000 a
. we are down to the wire and an impatient president obama is leaning on top lawmakers to cut a deal. senate leaders are rushing to hammer out a last ditch compromise. mike emmanuel is live with the latest on the negotiations. >> hi, molly it is it eye critical window. we are not expecting an announcement today, but they are trying to carve out a deal capable of winning bipartisan support. president obama said the u.s. can't afford a self inflicted wound to our economy. >> fortunate lie congress can prevent it from happening if they act right now. i had a good and constructive discussion with senate and house leadership about preventing the tax hike on the middle class and we should be able to reach an agreement to pass both house necessary time. >> senate leaders can't strike a deal. it would be a plan c. keeping tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less . extending unemployment benefits and delay dramatic spending cuts until later next year. >> they realize it is it a critical time. >> we are engaged in discussion majority leader and myself and the white house in the hopes we can
. thank you very much. coming up, are we close to a deal? president obama will speak in about 30 minutes. we'll have it live. also joining us delaware senator chris kuhns, jack kingston and maryland democratic congressman elijah cummings talking about the cliff and the deal, maybe. we're also live at new york's presbyterian hospital with the latest on secretary of state hillary clinton's condition. andrea mitchell reports is next. we can afford to take an extra trip this year. first boston... then san francisco. hotwire checks the competitions' rates every day so they can guarantee their low prices. so our hotels were half price. ♪ h-o-t-w-i-r-e... ♪
the president. so mitch mcconnell, speaker john boehner, they have to deal with the fact that president obama was reelected to raise taxes on the top 2% and speaker boehner and the republicans can't get their hands around their caucus, then the blame is on them. >> jarret, what do you think about all of this? you deal with the policy. you deal with the numbers. there has been some offers from the president, even to the chagrin of hi base. how do you make where we are? >> well, listening to the three of you and your introduction, i'm just struck a real low point in american politics over a period when there's been pretty good kovcompetition for the low of the low points. i'm also really kind of moved by the really political malpractice going on. we have an economic recovery on going. >> by the way, you don't really hear people talking about the unemployment rate. you're working to build on the momentum of this recovery. help them prove it so american households can get ahead on their own. through working hard. not through any tax breaks or anything like that. but through getting back to work a
to have to deal with, in terms of the debt. so i agree, i think president obama may have won the short-term battle. but i don't think he's going to win on this -- on the debt situation because that is when there is going to be absolute no negotiation on how much -- on what spending we do. it is going to be how much spending cuts that we are going to make because we are really at the point of no return, with respect to our debt. >> when you break out some of the individual leader who is are playing a part in this fiscal cliff negotiation, this is the latest gallup polling around christmas time. none of them faired too well. the president does the best. but we have house speaker john boehner, approval is 26% and harry reid, 34%. doug, who steps up and shows some leadership at this moment? >> well, the president's overall approval rating is pretty high, i think, he is in the mid-50s, about the highest he has been in some time. i think it's going to be, in the short term, it's mcconnell and reid. can it pass the house? that will be up to john boehner's leadership. i think that john boehner
to the quickly approaching fiscal cliff. tonight president obama and lawmakers are heading back to washington. but do they have enough time left to strike a deal in congressmen tray joins us. hi, tray, a pleasure to see you tonight. >> you too. merry christmas. >> merry christmas. unfortunately we still have the fiscal cliff looming over our head. a lot going on. talk about whether or not we can't get some kind of bipartisan approach. there is some kind of discussion that there might be a deal coming up. tell us what you know. >> i assure you that there will be a resolution either before the new year or shortly after the new year. that's the good news, that there will be a deal. the bad news for you and your viewers is that there won't be a solution. it will be a pan sea or some magical elixor that makes us all feel better. but shortly after we will get a letter from geithner asking us to raise the debt ceiling for the 80th time in our country's history. there will be a deal to, quote, avert the fiscal cliff. your viewers should demand more than a deal, they should demand a solution. >> do yo
, the democratic senator from iowa saying this deal doesn't look good to him. if a deal is reached in congress, the president still has to sign it. president obama set his terms and challenged the house and senate to get it it done. brianna keilar joins me now. is the president just sitting in the oval office waiting for a bill to get delivered to him? where's he in all of this? >> reporter: vice president biden is very much the president's proxy in all of this. it's easy to understand why. both the president and vice president served in the senate, but biden served in the senate for decades with all of the players that he now has to engage with. he knows the personalities. he knows the rhythms of the senate and of congress better than president obama, you could argue. it makes sense that he's serving as the president's proxy. this is something the president is engaged with. this is something the white house is very engaged with. he said yesterday he's optimistic that a deal can be struck. i think that's not surprising. that's what you'd expect to come from president obama. but we're also -- w
and jeff. president obama meets with the top congressional leaders. no deal can be reached impasse without their meeting. so far the fiscal talks have been when all four of these leaders have been present. >> whether he meant it or not, it seems exhaustive. >> i mean what's going on here? >> what indeed. president obama returned to the white house in a grim mood. he met with no congressional leaders and said nothing about his efforts to avert the fiscal cliff. talks continue between senior white house and congressional staff, but that's been true throughout then tire saga. with the deadline looming there were dire predictions. >> come the first of this year, americans will have less income than they have today. >> and rekrimm nations. >> now republicans have bent over backward. we've stepped way, way out of our comfort zone. we wanted an agreement, but we had no takers. >> the senate's top democrat said it has nothing to do with phone calls but house republican obstruction. >> thehouse of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictator
the bleeding. gregg: hope is fading and time is running out obviously for a fiscal deal. president obama is though meeting with congressional leaders at the white house today. it's a move that tennessee senator bob corker says feels more like optics than anything else. while several other critics claim lawmakers may actually want to go off the fiscal cliff. and in fact some have said the president wants to go off the fiscal cliff. so, can a deal be reached? juan williams is a fox news political analyst. he joins us live. mary katharine ham, editor-at-large at and is a fox news contributor. juan, what do you think about that notion? barrasso was the first one to say it on "fox news sunday" and you were there but others have said it since that the president really does want to go over the cliff so that he can reap the benefits of all of the tax revenues that would be had by everybody's taxes going up? >> i think that is historical revisionism of a very current type. he is already trying to spin this because i think it is clear from the polls that most americans want a deal. they
-minute deal. for now president obama and the first family are celebrating christmas in hawaii and that's where our ed henry is traveling with the president now live in honolulu. ed? bottom line the president is here in hawaii but might not be here for long. shortly after christmas likely to go back to washington. try and broker some sort of a deal. you remember before he left for hawaii, he announced that he wanted more of a short-term deal. sort of scaled back stop gap measure so that that big grand 4 trillion-dollar. instead he wanted to extend tax cuts for the middle class. he wanted to extend benefits for 2 million people that will lose those benefits a week after christmas. republicans are saying they think the president actually wants to go off the fiscal cliff for political gain. take a listen. when i listen to the president i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. additional tax revenue for new programs. he gets to cut the military which democrats have been calling for for years. and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> now, republicans are also sk
're in in corner. they could have taken a deal, could have take an deal in the summer of 2011 which would have been more favorable to them. they didn't do either. >> if obama is coming out and from what we're hearing he's not making a real offer. he's coming out with $250,000 staying with what he had before christmas. he's playing hardball. if he came out and was talking about a $40,000 tlshg hold, we could say these parties may be close to promise but i don't see that right now. >> we're getting breaking news that the president will make a statement at 5:45 in the briefing room so we'll stay tuned for that. robert, help me out here. how can boehner stay as speaker when it seems like his knees get cut out from him every day? >> is there some dissension within the house republican ranks, richard? sure. to really challenge boehner, you have to have a challenger and there are a lot of people in the house republican conference who are frustrated with the speaker, but they're not willing to run against him. you have big names like eric cantor and kevin mccarthy, number two and three, they're not even ma
? >> reporter: well, the biggest problem is our political system does not reward compromise. the way these deals have happened in the past, with previous presidents and previous speakers and previous leaders is a compromise is rewarded by the public. and right now, whether it's president obama, whether it was speaker boehner, the two of them couldn't find a way to get to a deal because they didn't want to look like they were ever caving. and when you get to a point where it looks like you're caving on something, then there is negative political effects. now, that's why they've brought in vice president biden, mitch mcconnell, to try to close this thing. and they may close a deal, but there's no guarantee that even any deal they come to an agreement with tonight will actually make it tomorrow. >> and chuck, this congress has, your honor telling us, the lowest approval rating ever, the least productive. what happens when the next congress comes in later this week? >> reporter: well, the bad news is, if you view this as bad news, more of the same. because even if they get this temporary deal on tax
not yet been able to reach a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama spoke exclusively to nbc's david gregory. we are going to get a preview of what he has to say just ahead. >> it has been just two weeks since the tragedy of sandy hook elementary in connecticut. a teenager in california wrote a poem to express her feelings saying she understood how it could happen and it got her suspended from school. we'll get her reaction coming up >>> we'll also hear from the 29-year-old surfer that used his fists and his board to save his life when a shark kept coming at him again and again. >> scary story. >>> later on, we'll switch gears and look back at the year in pop culture, from the rise of honey boo boo to the unlikely bop lairity of that catchy tune, gang ham style. >> slightly popular, wasn't it? >>> we begin with the race in washington to fist fiscal cliff deadline including a preview of david gr david gregory's exclusive interview. we begin with kristen welker. >> the house is back in session and they could announce a deal as early as this afternoon. many saying this entire ep
majority leader mitch mcconnell said there is still time to work out a deal. however, there is no firm evidence of any real plan. here is what we do know tonight. president obama cutting his vacation short arriving back in washington today. house lawmakers announcing late today they are now planning to return on sunday. but listen to the rhetoric. and you have to question whether that will do any good because near early everything that is coming out of d.c. is about blame. not answers. >> speaker boehner should call members of the house back to washington today. he shouldn't have let them go in fact. they are not here. they are not here. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> harris: a spokesman for john boehner fired back "senator reid should talk less and legislate more." and senate minority leader mcconnell saying we should have worked all this out months ago. >> and republicans aren't about to write a blank check or anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of t
no deal's reached, barack obama and democrats immediately propose to relower the tax rates to bush levels for all but the top 2%, and republicans find themselves opposing it on behalf of their millionaire friends will be the democratic charge. so that's kind of a nightmare scenario for democrats, and it's why you saw john boehner, speaker of the house, offer to raise taxes on americans who mange more than $1 million a year. patti ann: yeah. so the idea, though, behind this fiscal cliff is that it was supposed to have items in it that were unacceptable to both sides so that both sides would be motivated to not go over that cliff with the understanding that they might not be able to fix it all with legislation after the fact. so are there items in there that democrats would really not want to see enacted with the fear that maybe they couldn't get them rolled back? >> well, you're right, but it wasn't quite equal. the two big disasters of the fiscal cliff are, one, tax cuts, tax rates going up for everybody, and, two, all of these automatic spending cuts in place. but democrats feel confiden
thing the prospects of getting a deal after january 1 are significantly higher and that is for three reasons. first now president obama has all the leverage. after january 1st the leverage shifts to the gop. because president obama perfectly going over the fiscal cliff to blame republicans because he can't default on the debt. he will have to compromise between now and february. second of all the baseline gets reset if the tax cuts expire. everybody will propose a tax cut in january and right now we're fighting whether to increase taxes or not. you can see possibility of a deal seen as win-win for both sides. third, if republicans don't come up with a deal, a bad deal right now, they still have the $800 billion in revenue they put on the table from limiting deductions and loopholes that they can use to buy down rates. so i think the odds are, after january 1 we will get a deal and it will be much more favorable deal to the republican party because we'll have the leverage and president obama won't. heather: simon, basically what mark's laid out there would be more of a bunge jump over
they avert the fiscal crisis by getting a deal. president obama spending the christmas holidays in hawaii, but it's not all fun in the sun. still looming as i've just talked about is this large fiscal cliff as the deadline gets closer, and now there are reports surfacing that the president is looking to strike a partial deal that would extend tax cuts for the middle class while holding off on spending cuts. chief white house correspondent ed henry has the luxury of reporting live in honolulu, hawaii. ed it seems for the first time we might really go off the fiscal cliff which is something that you or so many of us in washington never believed would happen. >> reporter: you're right, kelly. i mean for the longest time there was an expectation in both parties there would be a lot of fighting but right up against the christmas holiday they would finally somehow work this out. that is traditionally what happens on capitol hill. this time as you say leaders in both parties now bracing for the real possibility that we will go off that fiscal cliff, and that tax increases will go across the boar
and signed by president obama. the idea being to make it so painful not to cut a deal on taxes and spending that they would be forced to cut a deal on taxes and spending. except keeping them honest, they haven't done it. even though they knew the stakes, they knew the deadline, and both sides promised that this time things would be different. >> we need to return to fiscal responsibility. >> how is it that we're going to be able to do that? getting our fiscal house in order. >> the american people have spoken loudly. they want us to get our fiscal house in order. >> fiscal handcuffs on this congress that are sorely needed. >> washington is beginning to get its fiscal house in order. >> so they approve legislation that gave everyone nearly a year and a half to reach a long-term agreement on spending and taxes or face truly punishing consequences if they didn't. you'll remember at the time this was a really big deal. republicans had forced the issue by refusing to raise the debt ceiling without budget cuts. markets went haywire. gabby giffords even returned to washington from rehab from her a
'm arthel nevil. it's down to the wire for fiscal cliff deal. lawmakers are trying to draft a plan under the deadline. president obama says he is optimistic they will come to an agreement if not, deep spending cuts will kick in for nearly every american. helpis one step closer for super storm sandy. senate passing a bill to provide $60.4 billion in aid for states impacted by the disaster. bill now has to pass through the house of representatives. hurricane sandy was blamed for at least 120 deaths in areas from north carolina to maine, new york, new jersey and connecticut. i'm arthel nevil, now back to fox news watch. for all the latest log on to i'll see you right here at 4:00 p.m. eastern alongside gregg jarrett. >> we will make sure that f there is anything is needed we get it out immediately. i want to thank you for everything you've done and we appreciate that. >> connecticut state police lieutenant paul advance talking to people. the killer committed suicide as police closed in on him. one of many tragedies that received major attention this year. it's a challenge for t
about the tax side of obama's offer. what he's asking for in terms of tax increases is not that radical, it's way less than if we don't reach a deal. contrary to what you may have heard, republicans want to raise taxes too. shocker, right? >> the superficial take on this, the argument between democrats and republicans is between democrats who love taxes, just want to tax everything. and republicans who totally grover norquist taxes, they hate them, that is not true. to a degree that kind of disturbs me, actually, the two parties mostly agree on keeping the bush tax cuts. up to $250,000 in income, which is a lot of income. republicans and democrats want to keep all the bush tax cuts. that's way more than 80% of all the bush tax cuts. they agree on all of that, no argument. where they disagree is democrats want to raise taxes on any income over 250,000. and they'll accept at this point 400,000. and republicans, though, this is what people don't always know, republicans want to raise taxes too, they want to raise them on poor people. they want to let the stimulus tax cuts expire. those are
doocy live in washington with more on the last-minute deal making. hey, peter. >> hey. president obama is still going to be able to squeeze in one more day of vacation in hawaii before he leaves his wife and daughters hyped and boards air force one for dc at about 10:00 p.m. in honolulu, 3:00 a.m. eastern time. that should get him back to the white house sometime tomorrow, thursday morning, on the back end of a break he says he hopes will get lawmakers on the same page. >> everybody can co- opt, drink egg nog, have christmas cookies, sing some christmas carols, enjoy the company of loved ones and then i'd ask every member of congress, while they're back home, to think about that. think about the obligations we have to the people who sent us here. >> speaker of the house, john boehner, is expected to come back to washington at any time as well. before he went back to ohio and president obama went to hawaii, they were believed to be about $400 billion apart in spending cuts and tax increases. speaker boehner even had to withdraw the so-called plan b measure in the house that would raise
four days left and no deal in sight. that could change today, when president obama holds a meeting with all four congressional leader at the white house. we're not saying you should bet on it. let's bring in ron brownstein for "the national journal." >> good morning. >> good morning. we're talking about this whole idea of a fiscal cliff was absolutely not supposed to happen. >> this was a machine that the two sides built to give guy them more will power to do what they didn't want to do to begin with. which is compromise. they could not reach a deal to destabilize the federal government's long-term finances so they built this to put more pressure on themselves to reach a deal now. and even this does not seem to be enough to do it, to force them to make the difficult concessions that are required for the two sides to come together this is indignant of a broader problem we face of a red coalition and blue coalition that reflect very different visions of american and show less and less cooperation. we are looking at a dividing government for the next two years and more likely next fou
? then paradise lost. will president obama leave hawaii behind the day after christmas if a deal is in the works and the election hangover. new comments from one of mitt romney's sons that you might describe as puzzling. what do they really mean? and the gun battle rages on. new reports on why nothing may get done even after the sandy hook tragedy. >>> a massive tax hike and spending cuts -- republicans and democrats continue to point fingers in opposite directions, hinting that talks could go into the new year. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are, and i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. he senses a victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> we only have nine days left here. when are we going to get serious about actual solutions? i would welcome john to tell me. he says he wants a solution. give us one, john. >> meanwhile, president obama is spending christmas in hawaii where he and the first lady attended the holiday memorial service for the late u.s. senator from daniel inouye. >> white house correspondent kristen welker. kristen, obviously
're nowhere near a deal. i think i have this figured out. president obama came back from hits vacation saying let's see if we can get something together, knowing very well that they can't. the house and senate are so far apart, neither one will even entertain the idea -- >> juliet: so why have a meeting? >> eric: you look like you're trying o do the right thing. these bush tax cuts will expire december 31, 72 hours from now, whatever the number is. if president obama comes back in january sometime and says, you know what, house republican members, i have an idea. let's lower taxes 'cause they went back up. let's lower taxes back to where they were last year for the people making under $250,000 a year and let's call them the obama tax cuts. it looks like he's the tax cutter and if you're a republican in the house, you go, wait a minute, i'm supposed to be for lower taxes. how can i vote no for lowering taxes on anybody? >> kelly: you allude to a very important point to why critics of this entire mess have gone on to say that perhaps president obama knew that he wanted to have a fiscal cliff, f
scrambles to avert the fiscal cliff. >> president obama asked congressional leaders to convene at the white house today. >> if the president and lawmakers cannot reach a deal economists warn that could trigger another recession. >> are they going to avoid the fiscal cliff, eric? >> the gulf war general known as stormin' norman has died. gen malnorman shwards cop of dread the coalition that drove saddam hussein's forces out of kuwait. >> the monster storm system finally moved out but some are bracing for another round of snow. >> more than 14,000 longshoremen are planning to strike on sunday the walk-out could affect ports from boston to houston. >>> for the second time this month a man has been pushed to his death in the path of a new york subway train. >> crazy people running the streets. >>> an uninvited guests slithered into a backyard in florida. >> somebody else got the shower on the sideline. >> jamal crawford who i think should be an all-star coming off the bench is dangerous. be still. >> and all that matters. >> hillary clinton plans to go back to
to get a deal for weeks and says the real problem that republicans won't admit that obama won the election. >> on taxes, i know it's hard for republicans but the president ran on the platform. 250. no tax increase for people below but taxes for people above. he won. 60% of voters said they were for it in exit polls including republicans. >> wake of house speaker john boehner's plan "b" failure, all eyes turn to senate leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell and whether they work out something short of $4 trillion grand bargain. last-minute stop gap. attending tax cut for people making $250,000 or less. and unemployment benefits for 2 million people who will lose the benefits a week after christmas. >> it is going to be a patch. because in four days we can't solve everything. >> yet, other republicans note the president short-term fix raises some taxes, yet punt spending cuts until next year. >> i would vote for revenue, including the tax rate hike though i don't like them to get, to save the country from becoming greece. i'm not going to set aside the $1.2 trillion in cuts. >>
to washington. but with just six days to go, homes for a last-minute deal may be fading. nbc's kristin welker is with us tonight from honolulu. kristen. >> reporter: natalie, good evening. with president obama flying home this evening, the political rhetoric has already started, with republicans urging action in the senate, and with democrats calling on republicans to put middle class families first. the president and first lady spent part of their christmas visiting troops in honolulu. >> we want to say thank you. we love you. >> reporter: but now he heads back to a snowy washington, where the last hope for a deal to avert the fiscal cliff is the senate, which returns tomorrow. majority leader harry reid is devising a partial solution that could ease economic fears. >> if we go over in a chaotic fashion, where members of congress are deeply grid locked with no sign of coming together, then we're likely to go over and stay over. and that's very problematic. >> reporter: going over the cliff would restore higher bush era tax rates and trigger deep spending cuts on january 1st. congress set up
in the senate are saying the chances of that big debt-reducing deal really are lost. it's now a small deal, they expect it out of the senate probably later this week. >> david kerley reporting from washington tonight. thank you. >>> speaking of president obama, he attended the burial today of long-time hawaii senator, daniel inouye. it was a 19-gun salute when the senator's coffin arrived at the national memorial cemetery of the pacific. senator inouye was the first japanese american elected to both houses of congress. he was also the second longest serving senator in american history. he was 88 years old. >> the other big story we're following tonight, with a third of all americans traveling for the holidays, meteorologists are now worried about what could be the nightmare after christmas. two new storms are moving in. we'll get the forecast in a moment, but first here's abc's john schriffen with the mess the weather is already creating. >> reporter: it's the christmas trip turned nightmare for drivers on the east and west coast. in northern california with more snow expected to blanket t
hearing about is over and impacted the general committee to a point where any deal could be better than no deal. also, it could have been worse that is what we are hearing. dividends taxed at 23 percent with obama's health care rather than 43 percent, that is a sigh of relief. especially older people with fix the investment living east dividends. the big question to wall street is the debt ceiling. they are negotiating three month pause or one year pause. can you imagine how much deficit spending we can get in a year without a cap? >> i am thinking the stock market is because we have hours before the i ball drops, the calm before the storm and watch out wednesday. what do you think in. >> well, watch out wednesday, that is the point. if you look at market the last two weeks, people have been selling ahead of the deal so it is a sell the news type of issue. charles hit the point on the head. this is not a tax issue whether it is $450,000 or $500,000 or $1 million. it is the spending issue. the democrats want to raise the debt ceiling and do not want spending cuts cuts and no sequestratio
on a particular deal. john boehner made a big concession allowing tax cuts to rise on income over a million dollars. president obama countered with a big concession and saying that that should be $400,000 and have fixes to social security on costs of living adjustments on that. what ended up happening? john boehner retreated their plan b that mike viquiera was talking about that was unable to pass and now we are in the stalemate we are in now. we were closer than before. >> you touch on a good point. that's lost now in the media. we are going-over the cliff. last week they are $450 billion away from a deal. that's less than 1% of the federal spending over the next decade. in d.c. terms, 400 billion seems like a lot. that's a drop in the bucket in d.c. terms. it's amazing that small of a number killed a deal. >> if you are buying a house or a car and one person said look, i'm going at $1 billion. usually split the difference and do the deal. this time around, that didn't happen. neither was hoping for this. if house republicans couldn't go for that million dollar threshold, they are not goin
and nonproductive but this meeting gave rise to hopes of a last-minute deal. for the first time in weeks president obama reported genuine progress to averting some part of the so-called fiscal cliff. >> i'm modestly in agreement we'll achieve. >> they're now chasing a much smaller deal than originally sought. the final product if there is one will not include trillions in debt reduction or federal spending or tax code reform. it won't even include across the board spending cuts. it will focus on tax rates and a few spending items. >> that's the bearare minimum we should be able to get done. >> sidelined for now. house speaker john boehner. as they left they sounded like they were closing in on a compromise. >> think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. >> we'll be working hard to try to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours, and so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> the president said the american public is getting frustrated and losing patience with these last-minute negotiations
debt ceiling. a fight that obama should not want to have. it's interesting to me if he doesn't act in the next couple of days with what charles calls a generous deal he gets himself in to really unstable waters, economically. something we have never seen before. then we look at the global waters rattling toward real default, not the january 1 cliff. republicans would be blamed initially but he would be blamed ultimately. >> this argument and is so ethereal with the numbers baptered back and forth they can't grasp it. one component is the farm bill that expires at the end of this lame duck session if it expires and we go to 1949 formula for calculating milk price supports. back in 1949, most cows in the country were milked by hand. what it ostensibly means for you is gallon could cost $6-$8. citizen against government waste says it's cornucopia of wasteful, silly programs that many wish should be allowed to die. the statement goes op and on. what is going to be the fate of the farm bill? >> good question. asnatetive wisconsin, i would like to see the dairy farmers do well. citizens
president obama, some leadership from harry reid in the senate and i think maybe we can work a deal out. with doug everyone share as little bit of the blame here but i think right now we should pay attention to the senate and see if senate democrats will actually act. jon: you use ad interesting turn of phrase in the last answer. you said the president has talked about doing some entitlement reforms. doesn't everybody in washington acknowledge that entitlement programs, social security, medicare, so forth, are the big drivers of our nation's debt problem and are going to have to be tackled seriously? >> well, republicans ran millions and millions of dollars of ads against democrats when we actually did reform medicare as part of the affordable care act. we saved about $715 billion and that was a talking point for republicans over the last election. so, getting lectures from republicans on doing something on medicare is kind of ridiculous when the only thing that they have done on medicare is actually broaden a prescription drug plan over the last 10 years and made it bigger. jon: amos,
-ditch deal and the house comes back today for a rare sunday night session. yesterday afternoon, in an exclusive interview, president obama sat down with me in the blue room of the white house to discuss the way forward and his priorities for a second term. >> mr. president, welcome back to "meet the press." >> great to be here, thank you. >> the obvious question -- are we going over the fiscal cliff? >> well, i think we're going to find out in the next 48 hours what congress decides to do. but i think it's important for the american people to understand exactly what this fiscal cliff is. because it's actually not that complicated. the tax cuts that were introduced in 2001, 2003, 2010, those were extended and they're all about to expire at the end of the year. so on midnight, december 31st, if congress doesn't act, then everybody's taxes go up. and for the average family, that could mean a loss of $2,000 in income. for the entire economy, that means consumers have a lot less money to make purchases, which means businesses are going to have a lot less customers, which means that
blamed president obama for the stalemate. >> i agree that it is the president's responsibility to lay out a plan and to bring people together. but it's a total dereliction of duty and candidly, a lack of courage to deal with these issues. >> reporter: what's at stake for ordinary americans? with income and payroll tax cuts set to expire monday, taxes would go up for most everyone next week. $110 billion in spending cuts will kick in. and 2 million jobless americans will lose their unemployment benefits. like karen duckett of maryland who hasn't been able to find work since being laid off as a housekeeping manager at a retirement community last year. her unemployment benefits set to end tomorrow. >> this has been the toughest year, probably, in my entire life. >> reporter: duckett, a breast cancer survivor, worries how she'll care for her 14-year-old grandson and has a message for lawmakers. >> remember, these are people. it's not just numbers on a piece of paper. we are actually human beings, suffering out here. >> reporter: and over on capitol hill tonight, nbc's kelly o'donnell reports
it is not all that rare. kelly? kelly: jamie, thanks. right now president obama is cutting his vacation short to head back to washington and jump-start the fiscal cliff negotiations with congress. talks fell apart before christmas. the deadline now is just days away and there is no deal in sight to avoid the tax hikes and spending cuts set to go into effect january 1st. our juan williams is a fox news political analyst and he joins us today and very quickly, juan, merry christmas to you. >> merry christmas, kelly. kelly: this is daunting task facing congress to avert the so-called fiscal cliff that will set into motion more than $600 billion in drastic and draconian allic tax hikes and spending cuts. that will cause a lot of pain for all americans and does congress have enough time to act on this? >> they do. you know it will be very close and it may in fact go beyond the deadline per se although people are thinking at the moment it is possible to get something done by the end of this week. the key here, kelly, is the senate. we have been so focused on the house, speaker boehner, plan. about,
this first four years of barack obama's first term. every single time fiscal issues come up and every single time he had to deal with republicans it has been the exact same routine where the president promises that he is very interested in deficit reduction and very interested in serious spending cuts. none of whichever materialize. but the class warfare rhetoric is always still there. he is always interested in raising taxes to feed his ever-growing and every ravenous beast of the government. here we are again. when i talk about this is no way to run a superpower, what i mean by that, every single time we get to the press miss and every single time our leaders wait until the exact last minute, i mean one thing to wait for it the last minute to buy christmas gifts for tomorrow. i see plenty of people running around new york city trying to buy gifts. another thing for the president and congress to wait until the last minute on fiscal issues that affect every american, gregg and our long-term fiscal health. gregg: are you saying the president is disingenuous and duplicitous which would be nove
. but president obama is cutting short his christmas vacation. he is leaving hawaii tonight, so that he can be back in washington when congress reconvenes tomorrow. and they can try once again to negotiate a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff by the end of the year. just about every american family will see their taxes increase on january 1 unless a deal is reached. but lawmakers are expressing very little optimism so far. meantime, the president spent christmas in hawaii, visiting a local marine base, thanking more than 100 troops and their families for their service. >>> and this morning, the taliban is claiming responsibility for a suicide bombing at a major u.s. base in eastern afghanistan. three afghans, including a guard at camp chatman were killed in today's explosion. >>> and back here at home, former major league baseball player andruw jones is free on bond this morning. he was arrested near atlanta early christmas morning on a battery charge, after police responded to a call about a domestic dispute with his wife. >>> and netflix, they are apologizing for a christmas outage in its vid
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